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Wednesday, December 28, 2011

Marian Apparitions, Part VI, More on Bayside Mary

John J. Delaney, editor, A Woman Clothed With the Sun

Because the New York apparitions went on for 25 years, there is almost more material available than can be absorbed without weeks and months of study. It used to be on the website “rosesfromheaven,” but for some reason most of it has been removed. Another website, “” carries some of the more important statements. Check out their Index to find statements and directives by topic.

Mary had so many negative accusations against the nuns, priests, Roman cardinals, and Vatican II, that she may have done more damage than the Communists detractors. At a later date, when the apparitions at Medjugorje began to be widely known, the Church would be arguing over which was the real Mary. Medjugorje Mary and Bayside Mary could not have been more different. Medjugorje Mary never mentioned the Pope at all. She was much more ecumenical and far less theological.

Apparently Catholics who followed the Bayside revelations began to panic when they realized that their parish and their church was trying to modernize. They feared that their priests had been corrupted and that the Mass, Communion, baptisms, etc., were not valid. “Mary” had to assure them that they should stay put. The Mass was valid even if the priest was a rogue.

Mary’s most amazing revelation was about the plot against Pope Paul VI. Veronica was shown that he would be martyred. By March of ’72 the assassin had already been chosen. By April 23 the pope would be removed from the seat of Peter unless enough prayers go up. His replacement had been chosen. Forged documents would come out of Rome to blame Paul and put him in a bad light. These conspirators wanted an international religion. Pope Paul was imprisoned in chains, crying for help [6-8-72]. Apparently all those rosaries had a good effect because as of May 30 he was still alive [bvm, 5-30], as he was in 1978. “666, Lucifer and his agents, will make a concerted effort to dethrone the present Vicar (9-28-78).”

The status of women will not progress under Bayside Mary. The Apostle Paul showed up to proclaim,
“Listen, my child, how Satan has corrupted the word.” Veronica: And now he’s becoming quite angry and pointing, jabbing with his finger the Book and saying, “Observe: Women shall be meek in the presence of their husbands. We hear the call of ‘liberation’! Whom shall woman be liberated to but satan! A man, as a figure of the Christ, my child, shall be the head of his household. So it is from the Lord. “A woman shall adorn herself not in pearls and braided hair, but in goodness and piety and good example to her children. A woman will not expose her body as a pagan. What manner of example has she given to her children? Woe to the parent who brings scandal to her children! Woman, remove your arrogance! You are searching in darkness. As a sign of reverence, you will cover your head. It is not that I call it custom, My children; it is that the angels demand this in the presence of the Sacrifice, Mass!” [March 22, 1975].

One of the weirdest directives calls for women to wear blue berets as a sign of their submission: “They will wear the blue berets, for they will not be above their husbands. They will do as they have done in the past in honor of the Father; and in the path of the Father, they will listen to their husbands and honor their husbands within the home. If they do thus, they will receive honor from their children. The example in the homes is very, very poor. So husbands, now, you will act with love to your wives, but you will keep them in discipline. Many of them have lost their way.” [].

Here are some of the Index entries regarding Woman/Women: (
Asked to dress to ankles as example of modesty ‘75: 8-21
Destroying your image before God and man ‘74: 11-1
Jesus: “No woman shall stand in My House to represent Me.” ‘75: 12-27
Must cover heads during prayer and the Mass ‘72: 2-1; ‘74: 8-14, 11-23; ‘75: 3-18, 3-22, 9-6; ‘76: 5-29, 9-28, 12-7; ‘77: 11-19; ‘78: 7-15
Must not enter holy place of Sacrifice ‘74: 3-24, 11-1; ‘77: 7-15; ‘78: 9-13
Must not expose flesh ‘74: 7-15
Must not wear slacks ‘73: 6-8
Must return to her place; been misled ‘73: 7-25; ‘74: 3-24
Not to be on altar ‘77: 7-15; ‘87: 10-2
Not to be priests ‘88: 10-1
Satan has set her to rebel against her destiny ‘74: 3-24
Seek to cast off role of mother, housekeeper and woman ‘75: 3-18, 7-15
Shall not become a priest ‘76: 3-18, 12-7
Shall not wear shorts, slacks in the presence of Jesus ‘74: 7-25
Who display nakedness will burn ‘71: 7-25, 11-20; ‘79: 6-2
Will wear prayer shawls, Blue Berets, honor husbands ‘74: 4-13
Would regain glory by child-bearing ‘74: 3-24
Young, should be placed under guidance of holy ones ‘75: 9-6

As for the disasters prophesied by Bayside Mary, the Lady of Roses site has a version of the third prophecy of Fatima. Here are a few statements from the page “A great chastisement will come up all mankind; not today or tomorrow, but in the second half of the twentieth century . . . If mankind will not oppose these evils [the manufacture and proliferation of deadly modern weapons], I will be obliged to let fall my Son’s arm. If the chief rulers of the world and of the Church will not actively oppose these evils, I will ask God my Father to visit His justice upon mankind. Then will God punish mankind even more severely than he did at the time of the Great Deluge. The great and powerful will die along with the lowly and weak . . . There will be no escape. The good will die with the wicked, the great with the lowly, the princes of the Church with the faithful, the rulers of the nations with their people. Death will reign everywhere, raised to triumph by erring men, the helpers of Satan who will be the masters of the earth. . .”

The fact that these dire prophecies did not come to pass is a flashing sign that these apparitions are bogus. But there is another that speaks directly to me about Mary’s veracity. She stated:
“Do not abandon My Son any longer by rejecting His Church. Do not judge My Son's Church by man. The foundation is My Son, Jesus. And though the walls may develop cracks, the foundation is solid. Will you not remain and patch these cracks, My children? We do not wish that you break apart into small groups of discord. No schisms must take place in My Son’s Church. For all who are baptized a Roman Catholic must die Roman Catholics to enter Heaven. A rejection of the papacy, a rejection of the Faith because of human reasoning shall not be accepted by the Eternal Father in Heaven. Remain faithful and true forever unto the end.” – Our Lady, November 20, 1979  [].

Evangelical churches are full of ex-Catholics like myself. The Church got us halfway to God, which we appreciate, but we didn’t learn to pray, to read the Bible, and to go directly to God with our sins and needs. All of us can say without a shadow of doubt, we are not bound for hell and we are not going back to the Catholic Church. I could understand if my mother, or some priest, or the Pope himself made that statement, but for the real Mary to say that? No way. Bayside Mary is a fraud.

Remember that the first Mary appeared as a 14 year old Native Mexican Indian. She can appear as anything, including a lovely Caucasian woman. Demons and/or aliens can appear as your relative, a saint, Jesus or Mary (compare my series on the Gulf Breeze Six, where “Mary” comes through a Ouija Board). The real Mary would really uphold the Bible and not just the dogmas of the traditional Catholic Church. That means no statues! [First Commandment] No goddesses. Aliens and demons love to make dire predictions to promote fear and terror and to create an environment of control. Demons are the accusers of the brethren [Rev. 12:10]. Jesus Christ is only the mediator between man and God [1 Tim. 2:5].

Such a nice idea! Sweet Mother Mary. But remember that the New Testament tells us that Lucifer is the “ruler of the kingdom of the air” [Eph. 2:2]. He is the great dragon who deceives the whole world. He is the shape-shifting prince of liars. If devotion to Mary truly leads the believer to Christ, then so be it. If Mary, statues, medals, fear, and condemnation replace Christ in the heart and in the Church, she is a fraud.