Interview With the Osbornes, Part I
Designed by Myra Osborne, Light of Christ Anglican Church, Marietta, Georgia
Interview with Osbornes, Part I, Myra's Story
I got their name from an evangelist-speaker named Kathie
Walters whose news list is full of miraculous stories, some written by her and
some shared in emails from churches where she has preached. I spoke with Charles and Myra Osborne by phone for almost two hours in early July 2009. In just over a year
later, this amazing man, who was such a delight to converse with, tragically
passed away.
Here is an excerpt from Rev. Charles E. Osborne’s obituary:
"Osborne, Rev.
Charles Edward, 56, of Kennesaw, GA, passed away on Friday, September 17, 2010.
Born in Wilkesboro, NC, Rev. Osborne earned his Master in Divinity with Honors
from the General Theological Seminary in New York City. He served as Curate at
St. Luke's Episcopal Church in Anchorage, KY, and was a Priest at Grace
Episcopal Church in Sheboygan, WS. He was currently the Rector at Light of
Christ Anglican Church in Marietta. He is survived by his wife of 28 years,
Myra E. Osborne."
Update: Their church, Light of Christ Anglican Church, has since closed. You can read more about them here.
My first question for them was about their conversion to Christ. Myra started off with her experience as a rather flaky teenager. She did not come from a Christian family, but neighbors had taken her to church, so she knew some basics of the faith. That didn’t stop her from getting into smoking and drugs in the ‘70’s.
"When I was 16 I had
done some drugs. I had some friends spending the night with me. And in the
course of the evening we had gone to bed, and I felt like I was going to die. I
knew that I had to tell someone that everything is God and God is everything,
and if I didn’t do that I would die. And so I didn’t know if my friends were
awake or not, so I got one of them awake, so I told her everything is God and
God is everything, and she goes, 'O shut up.' But what happened was that that
spirit of death or whatever it was left me, and I went to sleep.And in that sleep I had a dream."
Seven years later at the age of 23, she was at another party
with a group of her friends. Around 5 am, she began to sense a negative energy
swirling around in the room. Myra was already spiritually sensitive at that age,
even though she had no commitment to anything religious at the time.
"All of a sudden it was
like a déjà vu experience with the dream I had had come to life. And that was
the only time that group of people had come together…that particular group of
people, not after, not before, just that one night. So people were saying
things I’d heard them say before, and I thought that was really weird. And I
heard myself say things I’d heard myself say in this dream.
"One of the women
there had been arguing with her husband and had no intention of going home. Her
young daughter, who was about 4 years old, came downstairs and complained that
she wanted to go home. The mother grabbed her, shook her, and said, “Shut up
and go to sleep.” The child instantly collapsed across her mother’s lap.
"So anyway, there’s
still this energy in the room, and it changed suddenly, and I could feel that
something was trying to suck the life out of my body. Something was drawing the
life forces out of my body, and I looked around to see who was doing it, and I
made eye contact with that little girl who was laid across her mother’s lap,
but she had scales, like reptilian scales, and a long tail. It was a demon, and
the demon wanted me dead. So my eyes were opened, and I could see the darkness
there, and I told my girlfriends, we’ve gotta get out of here.
"When I got to my
apartment, I was crying, I was upset. I wasn’t crying because I got away from
this demon, but I didn’t know what happened to this little girl that the
demon’s living in. My friends didn’t know what to do with me, so one of them
said, 'O you should call so and so because she said she saw a devil in her
husband before, so maybe she can help you' (laughing). I know this is going to
sound like a tall tale, but I called her and she came over, and she brought me
a Bible. And she said, 'You need to read the Book of John.' Then she left. As
an aside here, as it turned out, her ex-husband that she saw the devil in,
turned out to be that little girl’s uncle."
My skeptical readers will have two objections here. First,
they will say that Myra and her friends were whacked out of drugs. No wonder she is seeing demonic
little girls. But Myra never said she was high that night, and that demon turns
up later in the story, so hang in there.
Second objection would be, What? An innocent little girl being demon
possessed? Nonsense! However, my research since 2009 has verified to me that
when malicious entities (aliens, demons, or whatever you want to call them) get
their clutches on a family, no one in it is safe. Children are not exempt! It
doesn’t mean that his little girl is evil. But it does suggest that her
uncle had introduced an atmosphere into the family that left all members open
to negative spiritual influences. I have blogged in the past about the
necessity of dedicating children to the Lord, whether in water baptism or laying
on of hands or just the desperate prayer of a parent. It puts a spiritual
firewall, at least for some years, between that child and marauding entities. Myra
continues:
"So I read the Book of
John, and I’m sitting on my bed when I get to the end of it. It’s a second
story apartment building, and I’m crying, and I said, 'O Jesus, sweet Jesus.' And when I said that, he just came through the wall and right into the room. I
guess I fell on the floor or something, because I was on the floor, and he took
me by the hand, and we were walking down this hallway toward a door, and came
to a corner, a sharp right turn. In the corner I saw that demon, and it was all
crouched down and all trembling and scared, and the Lord said, 'As long as you’re with me, you
need never be afraid.' And then I was kind of back in my bedroom.
"So I thought, well
I’ll just stick with Jesus (laughter). I didn’t have a strained conscious or
anything. I wasn’t convicted of my lifestyle. I didn’t think I was doing
anything wrong. I just continued with my life for a month or so, and I told my
friends it was OK if I was driving because I had Jesus (more laughter).
"So one day, that same
friend that I had woken up three years earlier, we were together at
my apartment, and we were having a pizza. My apartment was a disaster. The
dirty kitchen, the stereo on, the TV on… We were drinking beer, and we had this
pizza lying on the bed. So I got a piece of pizza and I sat down on the bed to
eat it, and my friend sat down on the other side, and she was taking a bite of
pizza, and suddenly Jesus just walked right into the room.
"So I said, 'Jesus is
here.' And she jumped up and said, 'Oh Myra, I don’t want to hear it.' I said, 'I can’t help it. He’s standing right there.' I just sat there, and he walked
through my apartment and looked at everything. Then he walked back and looked
at me, and I heard in my heart… I didn’t see his lips move… 'I didn’t save you
for this.'
Myra admitted that
they had been smoking pot that day, but she didn’t feel particularly high when
Jesus entered the room. The moment changed her life. She never smoked pot
again. She did smoke cigarettes for a while, but during a 700 Club show Pat
Robertson invited the audience to put their hand on the TV and pray for
deliverance from smoking. Myra did that and has not smoked since.
"The first thing I do
after praying is reach for a cigarette (laughter.) And so I take one out of the
package, and uh, this horrible stench filled the room, and I’m having a hard
time getting around it, but I’m still going to smoke this cigarette (laughter).
And so I’m trying to get it lit, and the fire on the end of it, you know, it
just looked like hell fire, but I was just going to go ahead and smoke it, and
so I inhale, and I had this vision of Jesus on the inside of me. You know the Bible
says that He makes His home inside of us, so I had this vision of Jesus on the
inside of me, and I just blew smoke in His face."
I smoked for a year in college. After I committed my life to
Jesus, I would get the oddest feeling every time I lit up that if I would quit
now, I would never crave another cigarette. If I waited, I would have a tough
time quitting. I smoked my way through the pack I was on and never bought
another.
Myra has a gift of being taken into a meditative zone where
she becomes open to spiritual realities. In my next post I will share an
otherworldly experience that she and Charles had when they visited Westminster
Abbey in London. In the meantime, I would like to share two verses about God’s
ability to protect us from what Paul the Apostle called spiritual “powers,” and
“authorities.”
From the Old Testament:
He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High shall abide
under the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the LORD, “He is my refuge and my
fortress; my God, in Him will I trust.” (New King James Version)
From the New Testament:
Little children, you belong to God and have
overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in
the world. (International Standard Version)
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