The Swamp of UAP Research


David Grusch’s statement is the tip of the iceberg.

One of the big news items this month of June 2023, besides the indictment and arraignment of former president Donald Trump, has been the statement by David Grusch, veteran of the Air Force, former member of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) and co-leader of UAP task force for the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. He claims that the U.S. government has closeted away actual downed craft from another world or dimension and that they also maintain the bodies of dead non-human pilots. He said the government has been covering this up for decades. It’s so secret that even Congress isn’t kept informed (but every UFO/UAP believer has known all this since 1947). Some heavy hitters with awesome resumes have confirmed Grusch’s statement. Of course, neither they nor Grusch can produce an ounce of evidence to support the statement, so it was easy for the government to debunk his claim.

Statement by Susan Gough, “To date, AARO has not discovered any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently.” There’s not a shred of evidence, they say. Of course, if there was evidence, it would be classified. And there is evidence if you include compelling anecdotal narratives, alien implants, and bodily injuries.

You can read about Grusch’s statement in dozens of websites and blogs so that isn’t my emphasis today. I want to just hint at the rest of the story. If Grusch can be believed, and there are plenty who don’t believe him, it would be a step beyond “lights in the sky.” You know, the dots of light that disappear into a cloud, or the triangle with a big light on each corner. Scientists in the technology arena used to protect their dignity and reputations by turning up their noses at tales of crashed saucers, little green men, and reverse engineering. Today, it feels like the arc of skepticism is bending and may soon do a U turn because what if it’s true?

What if there is BIG MONEY, and I mean really really big money in the technology? The U. S. Department of Defense should be cautious about naysaying. What if an aggressive, unfriendly nation beats us in accessing whatever the heck is out there? What if that truck driver who says he was abducted has more knowledge of UAPs and their inhabitants than the Pentagon generals or CIA analysts? What if in the future, the reward goes to the ones who help to untangle this rat’s nest of a mystery?

Let’s say just for the sake of argument that Grusch is right. Let’s assume that the videos of orbs in the sky reported by pilots and ordinary folks, and that the thousands of abduction claims have a grain of truth to them. That, my friends, would be just the beginning of our journey into the swamp. Lights in the sky and crashed vehicles are ankle deep, and the truth may be on the other side of the swamp. Oh, and by the way, the swamp is full of alligators.

Technology: What? Real, physical, crashable vehicles?

In 1980, Charles Berlitz and William Moore wrote The Roswell Incident, interviewing many of the people who were living in Roswell, New Mexico on June 6, 1947 or who were the descendants of those witnesses. The legend of the Roswell UFO crash was the beginning of broad public awareness that there were non-human entities out there in metallic vehicles that could crash. Considering that the U.S. Army immediately began threatening people with death if they talked about their U.S. military “weather balloon,” it’s astonishing that anything halfway credible came out of the interviews. Arising from that event came a legend attested to by so many witnesses that it could not be entombed in the fields of Roswell. Witness testimony followed the alleged alien bodies at their second stop at Ft. Riley, Kansas[1] and at their final destination at Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton, Ohio.[2]

I have my own Roswell tale to share. On the street where I grew up, a neighbor named Dick King, a UAL captain like my father, shared a story with those of us sitting beside my brother's hospital bed when he was close to death. A neighbor of his, another UAL pilot was flying from TX to NM (I don’t recall the exact cities). Dick King was flying directly behind him. King’s friend flew over Roswell and radioed King to meet him in the lounge when they landed because he had something to tell him. When King’s flight approached the destination airport, he saw his friend’s plane on a side runway surrounded by official vehicles. When he showed up in the lounge, his friend said, “Well, Dick, it’s too bad, but I’m not ever going to be able to tell you what I saw coming in.” Everyone in Roswell, NM knew what a weather balloon looked like. The Army would not go to such lengths to squelch the crash of a weather balloon.

In recent decades there were many TV shows led by abductee authors like Derril Sims[3] and Luis (Lue) Elizondo, former head of Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).[4] The goal was to prove that UAPs are real, using the most credible witnesses available, that there was a genuine technological component to the lights in the sky. The dam of secrecy began to crumble with the 2017 NYT article with video shots of real UAPs, followed up by interviews with the Navy pilots who chased them.

Robert Bigelow raised the technology bar a bit when he bought Skinwalker Ranch and launched a scientific investigation of it (National Institute for Discovery Science, 1995-2004) with highly qualified personnel. They not only documented a UAP association with the ranch, but a creepy paranormal presence that was anything but friendly. A lot of what they discovered was written in a book by Colm Kelleher.[5] Much was classified and secreted away.

Brian Fugel was the next owner of the ranch. In four seasons of experimentation by an array of skilled technicians, he and his team made a strong case for unexplained energy fields at the ranch, as well as a paranormal presence that both fascinated the experiencers and threatened them.[6]

The gist of all the above is that these investigators are discovering what shamans and voodoo priests have known since the first walls went up in Mesopotamian cities. The new element is not the presence of sentient interdimensional beings, which have always been with us, but the insertion of a physical element that is vulnerable to our own cool technological gizmos, a physical element that can be tracked to an extent, which suggests the possibility that some day that presence can be thwarted.  We cannot afford to ignore the possibilities in these investigations.

Medical: tracked with photos and medical records

Whether through hypnosis or naturally, some abductees can recall the traumatic moment that an implant was stuffed up their nose and into their sinuses. Some have even worse memories of such an invasion. Implants can be anywhere in the body, and they can sometimes be technically discovered, surgically removed, photographed, and sent to a lab for study. Scars, scoop marks, scratches have been photographed. Sometimes long term injuries have been documented by personal physicians. The problem for dignified scientists is that with implants, the woo woo is now pegging red.

Psychology: PTSD, hypnotism, and support groups

Depression, anxiety, and phobias follow abductions, even when the victim doesn’t realize that they’ve been abducted. Hypnotic regression often reveals terrifying medical probes and cruel scenes of mutilation. Aliens scare the abductee with visions of disaster because the terror that these scenarios cause energize the alien/demon. Abductees don’t need derision, they need professional support and guidance.

Paranormal:  But wait, there’s more

 I have found three life stories with a component of demonic, paranormal events combined with UFO aliens. Masquerade of Angels (1994) by Karla Turner, Ph.D. tells the story of Ted Rice who was an abductee since childhood. Ted and Karla both had experiences so strange that there is nothing normal on our planet to compare. The reptilian entities attached to Ted seemed to have a lifelong plan to divert him from the Christian faith he was raised in. He was used, abused, guided, and misdirected by malicious entities that acted like the highest order of devils.

Vance A. Davis’s book Broken Promises describes how in 1995 six young cryptographers were convinced by spirits speaking through a Ouija board to abandon their post in Augsburg Germany, return to the U.S., and prepare America for End Time apocalypses. Many predictions came true with stunning accuracy but the ultimate catastrophes did not. Vance’s first guide was an alien. The Ouija spirits claimed to be Bible characters. I blogged about the Six here.

Thomas Horn depicts his family’s sightings of UFOs. His older sister Vida was plagued by paranormal entities and classic alien abduction symptoms for years. Her husband worked for Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories. One night when they both had been drinking, she shared her stories with him, and he shocked her believing it all because LANL dealt with the same phenomena. A few nights later, he disappeared and was never heard of again. The family turned to Christ and they believe that that is why they were able to overcome the power that malevolent entities had over their lives. That horrific story is summarized in one my posts.  

It takes a lot of reading to clearly see the overlap of demonic oppression with recognizable manifestations and abduction events. A long, careful examination will reveal both to be a malevolent influence that degrades both soul and body.

Religion: No getting around it

What if the alien hybrid program and the mutilation visions that abductees often see is aimed at the God of Genesis who claims to have made mankind in His own image? Are they challenging that image by creating a new breed of sub-humans?

What if the compulsions for sex and other addictions that alien captors engender is to thwart God’s first post-Garden of Eden commandment, “Do what is right?”

Why do aliens and disembodied spirits say there is no God?

Although we don’t think of demons as flying around in spaceships (they seem to be earthbound), why do aliens and demons act so much alike and manifest many paranormal parallels?

Why do both demons and aliens hate the name of Jesus? Why is it that the name of Jesus can thwart an alien encounter or deliver a person from demonic possession? Why do regular church goers rarely ever talk about abduction experiences or poltergeist activity in their homes?

Hell coming for the living

The answer to it all is on the other side of the swamp, and there are no boats. For the professional wishing to maintain public dignity, the technician can say, “All I do is measure electro-magnetic energy spikes.” The medical person can say, “All I do is deal with scoops in the shin, scars on the neck, and radiation burns. Sometimes I remove an implant. I don’t deal with how it got there. No little gray men in my office.”

From there, there’s no off ramp. He or she who has never experienced the high strangeness of abduction but would still fancy themselves top banana UFO Researcher cannot evade the aspect of damaged psyches, screen memories, people being transported through a shut window,  and reptilian shapeshifters who convince their male prey that they are a beautiful woman who cares for them.

Lastly, the goal of all our research is to understand what the hell is going on and what is the remedy. How do we protect ourselves? What if the answer really is in the Bible? What if truth and virtue are our best shield? What if the answer on the far side of the swamp is Jesus Christ?



[1] Col. William J. Corso, (Ret.), with William J. Birnes, The Day After Roswell (New York: Pocket Books, 1997), 29-34.

[2] James Clarkson, Tell My Story – June Crain, the Air Force & UFOs, Kindle ed. (Black Triangle Press, 2015).

[3] Derrel Sims with Patricia Gray, Alien Hunter: Evidence in Light (self published, 2005), ch. 6.

[4] Unidentified: Inside America’s UFO Investigation, History Channel.

[5] Colm A. Kelleher, Ph.D., and George Knapp, Hunt for the Skinwalker: Science Confronts the Unexplained at a Remote Ranch in Utah (Paraview Pocket Books,2005).

[6] The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch and Beyond Skinwalker Ranch, History Channel.

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